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Tuesday, May 27, 2014

Forney Hits the Big Time

There's a certain irony that Taki's Magazine has elected Matt Forney to write a piece castigating liberal media reactions to the Santa Barbara shooting.  After all, this is a guy who feeds, literally and figuratively, on the outrage of normal decent people "liberals" and "feminists" by writing the same kind of vile, misogynistic and racist screeds that apparently helped warp Elliot Rodger's worldview. 

Forney predictably attempts to distance himself (and his manospherean cronies) from the site Rodger's is reported to have commented on:  It isn't us, it's them!  He even manages to insinuate that anti-misogynist sites such as David Futrelle's We Hunted the Mammoth and the Southern Poverty Law Center were somehow culpable for failing to warn the public of the real danger of PUAHate.  

I mean, just look how spiteful and scurrilous the PUAHate boys were, trying to dox and intimidate Matt's pals (never mind that is precisely what Matt has been doing for the past few months).

Of course, PUAHate may have been at odds with pickup artists, but they were very much part of the "manosphere" at large, that loose confederation of malcontents that are united in their shared hatred of women and minorities.  The distinctions between these factions and these individuals are virtually insignificant to anyone outside their 'sphere.  Whatever their purported aims, whether a return to patriarchy, or a pussy in every pot, the blame for the disappointing ways of the world is always to be placed squarely at one source: the autonomy of women. And they are willing to employ the most violent language and imagery to achieve dominance over those uppity western females (who really haven't understood their rightful place since either 1920 or 1420, depending on who's fantasizing talking).

How dare the SPLC name Matt Forney and his friend Roosh's blogs as "hate groups."  Didn't they see that PUAHate was just as bad?  (Waah, waah, it's so unfair!)

"Could it be that feminists ignored PUA Hate out of a fatuous “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” logic? If so, their negligence just cost at least six people their lives."

Not bloody likely.  Even for a paranoid manipulator of facts like Forney, this is a bit of a stretch.  If PUAHate was overlooked before the shootings, it is because it was a relatively unknown site that did little to grub for attention from the mainstream, unlike Forney himself -- an indefatigable and shameless self-promoter who basically lives and breathes on twitter, re-tweeting his admirers and his critics with equal relish -- or other, more organized or widely read hate sites like A Voice for Men, Vox Day, Heartiste, etc. ad nauseum.  PUAHate was just one of literally hundreds of misogynistic blogs, with the sole distinction that it hated the "game gurus" who had failed to deliver them the promised sex-on-demand they'd paid good cash money for, almost as much as it did the women whose favors they furiously insisted they were entitled to. 

Show me a comment left by Rodger on PUAHate that suggests he was ready to commit mass murder, and I can show you scores more on Return of Kings or The Spearhead that are even more ominous.  

All of these sites are the same, and they're all horrible.

Even a dedicated follower of the manosphere like Futrelle cannot possibly monitor them all.  (And it's hardly necessary to do so, since they are all croaking in unison in the same fetid bog.)

16 comments:

  1. Yeah PUAhate is still part of the manosphere, dumbass Matt. They're just bitter because for them PUA didn't work for them.

    Also, fuck that website.

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  2. The distinctions between these factions and these individuals are virtually insignificant to anyone outside their 'sphere.

    Yeah, it's like looking at a bunch of religious fundamentalists who hate one another even more than they do the heathens, and trying to work out which is the least worst of the lot.

    I must admit that I used to occasionally lurk on PUAHate before I realized the people on it were just as bad as the PUAs themselves (the fact that a typical comment on it would be something along the lines of "The OP is a fag. LOL" sort of clued me in to that!). Still, I did like the way they exposed a lot of the gurus of the PUA scene as the charlatans they were, and the way they revealed "Game" to be the scam it was did at least provide a pragmatic argument against it, to use on those who were impervious to the moral arguments.

    Also, why am I not the remotest bit surprised that the Manurespherians are now all rushing to use the "No True Scotsman" argument to distance themselves from Rodgers? Yes, I'm sure that if the last individual had only subscribed to someone like Forney's, Roissy's or Roosh's brand of virulent misogyny, things would have turned out so much better!

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  3. Typical that Forney should accuse feminists of using this tragedy for their own ends, while cashing in on it to break into an online magazine run by someone almost as odious as himself.

    Btw, did you see his recent post about going on a hike with his red pill buddies? Forney, if you're reading this, it isn't the photo that makes you look fat.

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    1. An impressive feat: "One step below actual rock climbing!" Someone that bald and pink really needs a hat in the desert.

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    2. After you mentioned that post about Matt's hiking adventures, I just had to check it out. Wow, Aurini sure was badass wearing all black that day - I bet he's the kind of guy who wears sunglasses at night too! Actually, that wasn't a bad piece (and the photos were pretty impressive too); just too bad it had to devolve into yet another whine about feminists and other bugbears of the Manuresphere at the end. Surely it must get tiring spending your every waking moment (and quite possibly all your sleeping ones as well) frothing and seething with hate like that. If he keeps it up, he's going to give himself a stroke by the time he's thirty!

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    3. If you wear black clothes while exercising outside in the sun, you're gonna have a bad time.

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    4. Yes, I love the assertion that feminists never go hiking, they're too busy stuck in their pokey apartments drinking herbal tea and stroking their cats.

      @Cinzia, they should've all been wearing their fedoras.

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  4. There is a certain terrible logic in Matt Forney writing for Taki's Magazine. They're like chocolate and peanut butter combining to form a hate-and-bitterness flavored peanut butter cup.

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    1. I notice that Takimag's editor in chief and editor are both women, the former being the daughter of Taki himself. I wonder what they think about Forney's assertion that most women don't deserve self esteem? And I wonder how Forney feels about working under women, given his previous post about female submission?

      Glancing through Takimag I can see a lot of chauvinism and privilege flaunting, I'm not sure Forney's poor boy made bad/ virulent misogyny will fit in there. I'm going to watch that space.

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    2. One of them is Matt's good buddy. She started a blog at Matt's behest, I believe and has reviewed Matt's books favorably. I'm sure she was the one who got Matt the Taki gig.

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    3. Oh Gordon bennet, not another special snowflake.

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    4. Ann Sterzinger. She's got a blog http://fineillstartagoddamnblog.blogspot.com/ and apparently writes and publishes books that Matt likes and that give me a migraine: dark, cynical, and damn nigh impenetrable.

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  5. Well said. The manosphere trying to wriggle out of being associated with other manospherians is the equivalent of the Judean People's Front disassociating themselves from the People's Front of Judea.

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    1. I wonder if their 'wiggles' are working or if people are indeed seeing a connection between rodger and the manosphere

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  6. (Waah, waah, it's so unfair!)

    Shouldn't that be spelled "unfaaaaaaaair" in manospherean?

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