There's even a secret handshake and greeting so that the boys will be able to identify one another, just like the underworld conspirators they aspire to be. No mention of secret decoder rings, but maybe those will be in the goodie bags.
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Friday, April 25, 2014
Save the Date!
If you're an Incel / would-be player who is planning to be in Washington, DC on April 30, Roosh will be hosting an opportunity for "intimate conversations" with the Game Master himself (at a location TBA on his Facebook page and twitter feed).
There's even a secret handshake and greeting so that the boys will be able to identify one another, just like the underworld conspirators they aspire to be. No mention of secret decoder rings, but maybe those will be in the goodie bags.
"Non-obese" (fat-free?) women are invited to attend, but only provided they agree in advance to "fornicate" at least one of the lads that evening. Don't plan on winning brownie points with Roosh by buying him drinks, however: "For such an event, I have to maintain my mental faculties at the highest level of sobriety for the philosophical and metaphysical conversations that are likely to take place."
There's even a secret handshake and greeting so that the boys will be able to identify one another, just like the underworld conspirators they aspire to be. No mention of secret decoder rings, but maybe those will be in the goodie bags.
Monday, April 7, 2014
Monday, March 31, 2014
Tears of a Clown
Reading between the lines of Roosh's post today ("Men Are Nothing More Than Clowns to the Modern Woman"), I'm guessing someone just got dumped.
Hey, it happens to all of us, and I would be the last to dismiss the havoc it can play to one's self-esteem. It's one thing to be rejected before we hit the dance floor. We can always rationalize the person didn't really know us, so he/she just couldn't recognize the opportunity he/she was passing up. But to be dumped after a few dates, and perhaps some shared intimacy, hurts like the devil, cuz that stuff is personal. It means the other person has sampled your wares -- probably the best you have on offer -- and found yours not to their taste.
But wait, in the Universe of Roosh, it's never personal. None of his readers ever need to consider their own inadequacies when girls break up with them. It has nothing to do with any deficiency on the guy's part, or even on the girl's: It's the welfare state's problem. If women didn't have jobs, they would not be able to afford to reject men. We knew this was the case in the United States, and even worse in Denmark, but it appears to be true in Ukraine as well.
"This is why provider men (beta males) are so hopelessly failing today to secure the commitment of beautiful women in their prime, and this is why even lesser alpha males fail to enter relationships with women beyond a few bangs. Once the entertainment or novelty you provide her declines—and it inevitably will—she moves on to something or someone else..."
Roosh, the master of bizarre analogies, then compares himself to a skirt -- specifically a "glittery" skirt (i.e., not a wardrobe staple). Then he concludes sadly that men with "tight game" have been reduced to the role of mere entertainers... "clowns." And who would disagree with him? Most people do consider him a clown. Entertaining? Well, clearly I think so.
Roosh winds up his "Dear Diary" post by trying to comfort himself that he doesn't need girls either. (After all, he's got "options!") He can do his own laundry and with his portable panini-press, he has no problem rustling up a home-cooked meal all by his lonesome. And who needs babies anyway? You can almost hear the muffled sobs as he taps all this onto his keyboard.
"Whatever natural connection that once existed between the sexes has now been severed." Seriously? Cuz I was outside not an hour ago, and I saw half a dozen young couples pushing strollers, enjoying a rare afternoon of sunshine, so there doesn't seem any shortage of "natural connections" in my neighborhood, at least. Although I doubt there would be much "natural" in a "connection" with Roosh, and good for this girl for recognizing what a selfish, deluded loser he is, and moving on quickly.
Hey, it happens to all of us, and I would be the last to dismiss the havoc it can play to one's self-esteem. It's one thing to be rejected before we hit the dance floor. We can always rationalize the person didn't really know us, so he/she just couldn't recognize the opportunity he/she was passing up. But to be dumped after a few dates, and perhaps some shared intimacy, hurts like the devil, cuz that stuff is personal. It means the other person has sampled your wares -- probably the best you have on offer -- and found yours not to their taste.
But wait, in the Universe of Roosh, it's never personal. None of his readers ever need to consider their own inadequacies when girls break up with them. It has nothing to do with any deficiency on the guy's part, or even on the girl's: It's the welfare state's problem. If women didn't have jobs, they would not be able to afford to reject men. We knew this was the case in the United States, and even worse in Denmark, but it appears to be true in Ukraine as well.
"This is why provider men (beta males) are so hopelessly failing today to secure the commitment of beautiful women in their prime, and this is why even lesser alpha males fail to enter relationships with women beyond a few bangs. Once the entertainment or novelty you provide her declines—and it inevitably will—she moves on to something or someone else..."
Roosh, the master of bizarre analogies, then compares himself to a skirt -- specifically a "glittery" skirt (i.e., not a wardrobe staple). Then he concludes sadly that men with "tight game" have been reduced to the role of mere entertainers... "clowns." And who would disagree with him? Most people do consider him a clown. Entertaining? Well, clearly I think so.
Roosh winds up his "Dear Diary" post by trying to comfort himself that he doesn't need girls either. (After all, he's got "options!") He can do his own laundry and with his portable panini-press, he has no problem rustling up a home-cooked meal all by his lonesome. And who needs babies anyway? You can almost hear the muffled sobs as he taps all this onto his keyboard.
"Whatever natural connection that once existed between the sexes has now been severed." Seriously? Cuz I was outside not an hour ago, and I saw half a dozen young couples pushing strollers, enjoying a rare afternoon of sunshine, so there doesn't seem any shortage of "natural connections" in my neighborhood, at least. Although I doubt there would be much "natural" in a "connection" with Roosh, and good for this girl for recognizing what a selfish, deluded loser he is, and moving on quickly.
Wednesday, March 12, 2014
Is This the Worst Relationship Advice Ever?
A couple of weeks ago, our favorite "Game Master" challenged his readers, "Are You The Player Or Are You Getting Played?"
There are only two roles that can exist in any male-female relationship:
(This post seems deliciously ironic in light of the fact that it was quickly followed by the writer and his co-conspirator Tuthmosis "playing" the entire Roosh V and Return of Kings readership, as though to drive home the point in the most humiliating manner that this "zero-sum game" is not confined to sexual relationships.)
The man who is "a winner" gets to establish all terms, chief among them "the frequency and depravity of sex," the opportunity to "degrade her in bed to your satisfaction."
Wow. Let's just get past this unfortunate choice of words -- this is Roosh, after all -- and concede (for the 100th time) that this is a person who not only hates women, but really hates the sexual act itself. For how can one person "degrade" another without degrading himself? How morally bankrupt and perverse is a person who perceives the act of sex as an opportunity to "degrade" another human being?
"There is no other role that you can fill. There is no 50/50."
In fact, I have seen (though thankfully few) relationships in which the individuals involved DID take turns exploiting and humiliating each other tit for tat. But I didn't get the impression either party was enjoying himself/herself much.
A relationship in which one party pulls all the strings all the time is going to get tedious even for (indeed, especially for) the one in charge. That's why it strikes me that doms have a much harder "job" than subs do. That's why there is always a bigger market for "tops" than "bottoms."
"Remember that time when you started off as the player, but then you got played in the end? I know why that happened. It’s because you stopped giving her the game that got her in bed in the first place."
Now here Roosh actually touches on something that I can recognize as a kind of truth: To keep the other's interest, especially in the early stages of a relationship, one must remain a little at bay. It is human nature that we don't value what is too easily obtained. Courtship is a series of small tests; it is a dance in which one partner steps forward, the other back (and reverse). And even later, if and when commitment and trust are established, the roles of "giver" vs. "receiver" tend to fluctuate. Among many contented couples I have seen, one partner is always more "in love" than the other, and that works well too -- so long as the power balance is not too lop-sided. 50/50? Probably not realistic. 20/80? Not uncommon at all.
I also think Roosh has a point when he claims women dislike "needy" men who force them to run the show. My impression is that passivity and "instant attachment" are, indeed, huge turn-offs to most (although not all) women. Whether this reflects an intrinsic quality in women's natures, I don't know, but I'm willing to entertain the possibility. My personal observation is that, while it is true that "neediness" in a man is more of a turn-off to women than the other way 'round, it doesn't follow that most men are looking for a "sex-bot" in the flesh, either.
To keep the spark alive, both parties must be stimulated by a sense that they do not possess "all" of their partner. And whether male, female, or other, people in a coupled relationship need to work to maintain their individuality and "personhood" for a number of reasons. One of these reasons is pragmatic. Relationships never last forever. Unless both parties perish simultaneously in a fiery crash, one is likely to predecease the other. If the survivor has completely given himself away, built his or her life entirely around another, what will be left to sustain him? Another reason is that a relationship without any tension or conflict whatsoever is about as exciting and as "sexy" as a tepid bath. Predictability is the death of romance, and what could be more numbingly predictable than a relationship in which one person calls all the shots all the time?
What frustrates me about someone like Roosh giving relationship advice to young men is that he is someone who has never been in an intimate relationship himself (sorry, one night stands just don't count). It's even worse than celibate priests acting as marriage counselors, because Roosh actually hates women. (And while the Catholic Church as an institution treats women badly, I don't assume its individual clergy do.) It's like taking financial advice from a person who (looks like he) lives in a trailer park.
And if there's one thing I'm pretty sure about after examining the readership of these self-appointed authorities is that most of them really do want relationships. Of course, if you're a lonely, horny 17 year old, a casual "bang" (or even a series of them) sounds great, but I expect their dreams are a little bigger and better than that: They want beautiful girlfriends who understand them and want to have sex with them because they love them for who they are.
Isn't that what everyone wants?
I really hate to see impressionable minds prematurely embittered by cynical advice like this because their dreams are not impossible or permanently out of reach -- although following "game" theory is the worst way to achieve them.
There are only two roles that can exist in any male-female relationship:
- The player
- The person who gets played
(This post seems deliciously ironic in light of the fact that it was quickly followed by the writer and his co-conspirator Tuthmosis "playing" the entire Roosh V and Return of Kings readership, as though to drive home the point in the most humiliating manner that this "zero-sum game" is not confined to sexual relationships.)
The man who is "a winner" gets to establish all terms, chief among them "the frequency and depravity of sex," the opportunity to "degrade her in bed to your satisfaction."
Wow. Let's just get past this unfortunate choice of words -- this is Roosh, after all -- and concede (for the 100th time) that this is a person who not only hates women, but really hates the sexual act itself. For how can one person "degrade" another without degrading himself? How morally bankrupt and perverse is a person who perceives the act of sex as an opportunity to "degrade" another human being?
"There is no other role that you can fill. There is no 50/50."
In fact, I have seen (though thankfully few) relationships in which the individuals involved DID take turns exploiting and humiliating each other tit for tat. But I didn't get the impression either party was enjoying himself/herself much.
A relationship in which one party pulls all the strings all the time is going to get tedious even for (indeed, especially for) the one in charge. That's why it strikes me that doms have a much harder "job" than subs do. That's why there is always a bigger market for "tops" than "bottoms."
"Remember that time when you started off as the player, but then you got played in the end? I know why that happened. It’s because you stopped giving her the game that got her in bed in the first place."
Now here Roosh actually touches on something that I can recognize as a kind of truth: To keep the other's interest, especially in the early stages of a relationship, one must remain a little at bay. It is human nature that we don't value what is too easily obtained. Courtship is a series of small tests; it is a dance in which one partner steps forward, the other back (and reverse). And even later, if and when commitment and trust are established, the roles of "giver" vs. "receiver" tend to fluctuate. Among many contented couples I have seen, one partner is always more "in love" than the other, and that works well too -- so long as the power balance is not too lop-sided. 50/50? Probably not realistic. 20/80? Not uncommon at all.
I also think Roosh has a point when he claims women dislike "needy" men who force them to run the show. My impression is that passivity and "instant attachment" are, indeed, huge turn-offs to most (although not all) women. Whether this reflects an intrinsic quality in women's natures, I don't know, but I'm willing to entertain the possibility. My personal observation is that, while it is true that "neediness" in a man is more of a turn-off to women than the other way 'round, it doesn't follow that most men are looking for a "sex-bot" in the flesh, either.
To keep the spark alive, both parties must be stimulated by a sense that they do not possess "all" of their partner. And whether male, female, or other, people in a coupled relationship need to work to maintain their individuality and "personhood" for a number of reasons. One of these reasons is pragmatic. Relationships never last forever. Unless both parties perish simultaneously in a fiery crash, one is likely to predecease the other. If the survivor has completely given himself away, built his or her life entirely around another, what will be left to sustain him? Another reason is that a relationship without any tension or conflict whatsoever is about as exciting and as "sexy" as a tepid bath. Predictability is the death of romance, and what could be more numbingly predictable than a relationship in which one person calls all the shots all the time?
What frustrates me about someone like Roosh giving relationship advice to young men is that he is someone who has never been in an intimate relationship himself (sorry, one night stands just don't count). It's even worse than celibate priests acting as marriage counselors, because Roosh actually hates women. (And while the Catholic Church as an institution treats women badly, I don't assume its individual clergy do.) It's like taking financial advice from a person who (looks like he) lives in a trailer park.
And if there's one thing I'm pretty sure about after examining the readership of these self-appointed authorities is that most of them really do want relationships. Of course, if you're a lonely, horny 17 year old, a casual "bang" (or even a series of them) sounds great, but I expect their dreams are a little bigger and better than that: They want beautiful girlfriends who understand them and want to have sex with them because they love them for who they are.
Isn't that what everyone wants?
I really hate to see impressionable minds prematurely embittered by cynical advice like this because their dreams are not impossible or permanently out of reach -- although following "game" theory is the worst way to achieve them.
Friday, January 31, 2014
Entitled Babies, the Lot of 'em
May I just say here how insanely irritating I find it when "professional" PUAs like Roosh refer to seducing women as "work", as in (God-help-me-I'm-not-kidding), "the important work I do," or the disappointment of not getting to intercourse after "putting in hours of hard work."
Excuse my vent, but I have been working for forty consecutive years. And by "work" I mean: going to a job every single day, doing what I was told to do to the best of my ability (even when I didn't usually feel like it), and biting my tongue over and over and over again.
Have any of these manospherean bloggers ever held a real job for more than a year? When did blogging-for-donations while extending one's adolescence beyond thirty become a respectable lifestyle for a man?
I can't post this rant on manboobz cuz someone will accuse me of being "ableist."
Excuse my vent, but I have been working for forty consecutive years. And by "work" I mean: going to a job every single day, doing what I was told to do to the best of my ability (even when I didn't usually feel like it), and biting my tongue over and over and over again.
Have any of these manospherean bloggers ever held a real job for more than a year? When did blogging-for-donations while extending one's adolescence beyond thirty become a respectable lifestyle for a man?
I can't post this rant on manboobz cuz someone will accuse me of being "ableist."
Sunday, December 15, 2013
Seduce and Destroy!
I'm among those who believe "Magnolia" is a great movie, not least of which is due to the incredible performance Tom Cruise gives as the toxic, emotionally crippled PUA guru, Frank T. J. Mackie. Made in 1999, it still holds up well, and certainly Cruise has not had a role that rivals it since. Also, the soundtrack by Aimee Mann is awesome. You can watch the entire film on Youtube if you haven't seen it. (Someone should have told Roosh this was a cautionary tale, not an instructional video!)
Saturday, June 8, 2013
ROK: A Kinder, Gentler Place?
Roosh V is "on hiatus," his exact whereabouts unknown. Maybe he's in Moldova learning the fine art of gun-running. He is definitely casting about for his next scam.
Meanwhile, is it just my imagination, or is Roosh V's "other blog," Return of Kings, becoming a kinder, gentler place? It seems to be filling up with articles about how to set up a "bachelor" kitchen, healthy eating "on the run," the joys of the great outdoors, and the relative merits of "soylent" as a food substitute. One today exhorted readers to quit whining about their jobs and start using their leisure time more fruitfully! Plus a very idiosyncratic list of coma-inducing songs that are supposed to be conducive to lovemaking (see David Futrelle's take on that one.
Even Matt Forney recently devoted an entire post to the art of shaving using mineral oil instead of shaving cream (which believe- you-me I read with interest). Of course the comments section is another matter entirely... Tread there at your own peril.
Meanwhile, is it just my imagination, or is Roosh V's "other blog," Return of Kings, becoming a kinder, gentler place? It seems to be filling up with articles about how to set up a "bachelor" kitchen, healthy eating "on the run," the joys of the great outdoors, and the relative merits of "soylent" as a food substitute. One today exhorted readers to quit whining about their jobs and start using their leisure time more fruitfully! Plus a very idiosyncratic list of coma-inducing songs that are supposed to be conducive to lovemaking (see David Futrelle's take on that one.
Even Matt Forney recently devoted an entire post to the art of shaving using mineral oil instead of shaving cream (which believe- you-me I read with interest). Of course the comments section is another matter entirely... Tread there at your own peril.
Friday, May 24, 2013
Performance Anxiety
N.B. It was only after I had posted the following that I found David Futrelle over at manboobz had coincidentally posted a response to the same topic.
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Yesterday, I was in a tanning salon waiting my turn at one of the beds. (I want to build up a little melanin before our trip to Mexico). To my annoyance, all there was to read in the lobby was Cosmopolitan magazine, the one magazine I cannot stand to look at.
Although there was much to admire about Helen Gurley Brown, I have always detested Cosmopolitan. Not only for the content, or lack thereof (since it is dedicated almost exclusively to the various Geisha like arts of pleasing men), but for its style (which, BTW, Nora Ephron skewered brilliantly in a piece for Esquire many years ago). Brown stepped down in 1997, but the magazine only seems to have gotten more obsessively focused on the need for women to cater to men in the bedroom, with shameless headlines screaming "Tease Him and Please Him!" "Foreplay Men Crave!" and "His Butt." Every issue features at least one article on how to gratify men sexually. Cuz these days the way to a man's heart is through advanced fellatio technique.
So it was surprising to read over at ROK that "You've probably noticed that most women haven't got the tiniest interest in pleasing us. The large majority of women believe that getting naked and allowing us to stab their insides with our manly part is pretty much all they have to do when it comes to having sex." Well, you can't blame Cosmopolitan for not trying!
5. The Pornstar
The ultimate girlfriend experience. (Probably a regular Cosmo reader.)
Is it my imagination, or can I feel the editorial hand of Roosh in every piece that is posted to ROK? Like Helen Gurley Brown and Hugh Hefner, his persona infuses everything. But Roosh is no Hugh Hefner, and the glory days of magazines like Playboy and Cosmopolitan, which were once the authorities on How To Perform One's Sex, are over. The only reason they linger on is that the one thing that doesn't seem to change is the sexual performance anxiety many young men and women suffer from.
And here's a picture of the author with two "chicks." Not surprisingly, he's selling PUA too.
Alex Matlock is an expert in dating and woman psychology. This is the sort of stuff he discusses on his blog and in the free eBook he gives out. If you want to increase your success with women, visit ThePlayerGuide.com - a place where the dating mindset is thrown out the window in favor of more direct and fruitful methods of meeting and seducing women.
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Yesterday, I was in a tanning salon waiting my turn at one of the beds. (I want to build up a little melanin before our trip to Mexico). To my annoyance, all there was to read in the lobby was Cosmopolitan magazine, the one magazine I cannot stand to look at.
Although there was much to admire about Helen Gurley Brown, I have always detested Cosmopolitan. Not only for the content, or lack thereof (since it is dedicated almost exclusively to the various Geisha like arts of pleasing men), but for its style (which, BTW, Nora Ephron skewered brilliantly in a piece for Esquire many years ago). Brown stepped down in 1997, but the magazine only seems to have gotten more obsessively focused on the need for women to cater to men in the bedroom, with shameless headlines screaming "Tease Him and Please Him!" "Foreplay Men Crave!" and "His Butt." Every issue features at least one article on how to gratify men sexually. Cuz these days the way to a man's heart is through advanced fellatio technique.
So it was surprising to read over at ROK that "You've probably noticed that most women haven't got the tiniest interest in pleasing us. The large majority of women believe that getting naked and allowing us to stab their insides with our manly part is pretty much all they have to do when it comes to having sex." Well, you can't blame Cosmopolitan for not trying!
The article, by someone who calls himself Alex "The Player" Matlock, invites readers to identify the type of bad sex that they are (probably not) having. He believes it is important for the Rooshites to know this because it's only "fair" and "natural" and besides, "Judging is important because it allow us to
understand exactly what it is that we want from a sexual encounter." Ah, if wishes were horses...!
Who is Alex Matlock and why should men listen to him? According to his website, Mr. Matlock is working on his PHD -- and he spells it like that, all in caps -- in Social Psychology. He chose Social Psychology because he thought it would help him understand women better. He even shared a flat with three girls once, not to "bang" them, but to deepen his knowledge of the feminine psyche.
Although he assures us that he has "banged a lot of chicks," he has found that most of their performances fall short of the mark. And because Roosh and his ilk love lists (also tables, graphs, flowcharts, and diagrams), Matlock methodically lists the five types of women in order of most (1) to least disappointing (5).
Who is Alex Matlock and why should men listen to him? According to his website, Mr. Matlock is working on his PHD -- and he spells it like that, all in caps -- in Social Psychology. He chose Social Psychology because he thought it would help him understand women better. He even shared a flat with three girls once, not to "bang" them, but to deepen his knowledge of the feminine psyche.
Although he assures us that he has "banged a lot of chicks," he has found that most of their performances fall short of the mark. And because Roosh and his ilk love lists (also tables, graphs, flowcharts, and diagrams), Matlock methodically lists the five types of women in order of most (1) to least disappointing (5).
1. The one that tries too much (aka The Disaster)
This girl is guilty of trying too hard. She moves out of sync [because the guy establishes the tempo, presumably]. She has the highest percentage of male genitalia injury [sic], breaks condoms, and makes guys lose their boners. That’s just one more reason to avoid “taking advantage” of heavily inebriated women. Why do I suspect the sarcasm quotes to be Roosh's touch?2. The one that’s scared (aka The Virgin)
I thought these guys wanted sweet, inexperienced girls? But the so-called virgin is just scamming a fellow. She makes a guy feel guilty by acting as though she doesn't know what she's doing. Plus she only allows penetration in the missionary position.
3. The one that doesn’t move (aka The Starfish or The Doll)
Matlock suggests that because she doesn’t do anything that disrupts the actual lovemaking... she will probably have many more orgasms than #1 and #2 simply because she lets the man do his thing. Matlock rates such women as "average" in the performance department. And I rate Matlock's understanding of what makes a woman orgasm "below average."4. The one that does something (aka The Girlfriend)
Experienced enough to "put a smile on your face."5. The Pornstar
The ultimate girlfriend experience. (Probably a regular Cosmo reader.)
Is it my imagination, or can I feel the editorial hand of Roosh in every piece that is posted to ROK? Like Helen Gurley Brown and Hugh Hefner, his persona infuses everything. But Roosh is no Hugh Hefner, and the glory days of magazines like Playboy and Cosmopolitan, which were once the authorities on How To Perform One's Sex, are over. The only reason they linger on is that the one thing that doesn't seem to change is the sexual performance anxiety many young men and women suffer from.
And here's a picture of the author with two "chicks." Not surprisingly, he's selling PUA too.
Alex Matlock is an expert in dating and woman psychology. This is the sort of stuff he discusses on his blog and in the free eBook he gives out. If you want to increase your success with women, visit ThePlayerGuide.com - a place where the dating mindset is thrown out the window in favor of more direct and fruitful methods of meeting and seducing women.
My Message to Incels
A commenter on Manboobz shared a link to a documentary called "Shy Boys," in which the director, Sara Gardephe, interviews several "Incels" (involuntary celibates). Because Incels tend to be ready "converts" to Game, I watched it with interest.
The fact that most of the young men describe themselves as "ugly" is really striking to me because, really, none of them are. In fact, I thought the long-haired dude was quite pretty in a rock star way. Yet they blame their lack of success with women primarily on an imaginary defect in their own physical appearance. Of course, girls do that too, and to such a degree that we hardly notice. I don't remember boys being so self-critical in the past, however. I am sad to see men starting to share women's neuroses about their looks. Body dysmorphia is a form of equality I don't welcome.
As for their disgust of female genitalia, it reminded me of Victorian art critic John Ruskin, famously unable to consummate his marriage because he was so horrified by the sight of his beautiful bride's genitals.
Somehow I cannot judge these boys too harshly. Truth be told, I've never been enamored with the sight of my own bits, and recall how unpleasant I found it when a Nurse Practitioner insisted I examine my own cervix with the aid of a mirror, speculum, and flashlight. Working in an abortion clinic, I saw hundreds of vulvas, of course, and I gradually lost my revulsion to my own. So my first Rx for these troubled lads is more exposure to real women and less porn.
I cannot even be too hard on the way the Incels in the documentary refer to "fat girls" as scraping the bottom of the barrel in the sexual marketplace. They are simply parroting what the entire culture is teaching us, so why should we expect them to challenge the standards of the day? It takes self-confidence to buck the system. I refused to date fat boys when I was an undergrad even though (or because) I weighed 170# myself. Being discriminated against did not make me compassionate or tolerant -- the opposite, in fact.
Was I so different from these guys at the same age? As a teenager, I would go six weeks without speaking to anyone. I was so shy that some days I simply couldn't muster the courage to go to school, instead whiling away the hours sitting alone in parks or aimlessly riding buses. One day, when I was about seventeen, I realized "This won't do," and started to force myself out into the world. But it took many more years before I overcame my almost crippling shyness, and I only managed to do so by acts of will, challenging myself with activities that caused me the greatest degree of manageable anxiety.
I finally figured out that my self-consciousness was basically egocentrism. I found that the more I attended to another person, the less "shy" I was. Perhaps it was this realization that drew me towards work where I had to perform service for others. In a professional role, I could finally let go of myself.
I still remind myself, when I feel the old social awkwardness and anxiety creeping up, to focus, focus on the other person. Ask questions. Then listen. Reflect on what he/she is saying. Get over yourself!
Ironically, "game" is probably the worst way for these fellows to overcome their issues. I wish I could share this with Incels.
The fact that most of the young men describe themselves as "ugly" is really striking to me because, really, none of them are. In fact, I thought the long-haired dude was quite pretty in a rock star way. Yet they blame their lack of success with women primarily on an imaginary defect in their own physical appearance. Of course, girls do that too, and to such a degree that we hardly notice. I don't remember boys being so self-critical in the past, however. I am sad to see men starting to share women's neuroses about their looks. Body dysmorphia is a form of equality I don't welcome.
As for their disgust of female genitalia, it reminded me of Victorian art critic John Ruskin, famously unable to consummate his marriage because he was so horrified by the sight of his beautiful bride's genitals.
Somehow I cannot judge these boys too harshly. Truth be told, I've never been enamored with the sight of my own bits, and recall how unpleasant I found it when a Nurse Practitioner insisted I examine my own cervix with the aid of a mirror, speculum, and flashlight. Working in an abortion clinic, I saw hundreds of vulvas, of course, and I gradually lost my revulsion to my own. So my first Rx for these troubled lads is more exposure to real women and less porn.
I cannot even be too hard on the way the Incels in the documentary refer to "fat girls" as scraping the bottom of the barrel in the sexual marketplace. They are simply parroting what the entire culture is teaching us, so why should we expect them to challenge the standards of the day? It takes self-confidence to buck the system. I refused to date fat boys when I was an undergrad even though (or because) I weighed 170# myself. Being discriminated against did not make me compassionate or tolerant -- the opposite, in fact.
Was I so different from these guys at the same age? As a teenager, I would go six weeks without speaking to anyone. I was so shy that some days I simply couldn't muster the courage to go to school, instead whiling away the hours sitting alone in parks or aimlessly riding buses. One day, when I was about seventeen, I realized "This won't do," and started to force myself out into the world. But it took many more years before I overcame my almost crippling shyness, and I only managed to do so by acts of will, challenging myself with activities that caused me the greatest degree of manageable anxiety.
I finally figured out that my self-consciousness was basically egocentrism. I found that the more I attended to another person, the less "shy" I was. Perhaps it was this realization that drew me towards work where I had to perform service for others. In a professional role, I could finally let go of myself.
I still remind myself, when I feel the old social awkwardness and anxiety creeping up, to focus, focus on the other person. Ask questions. Then listen. Reflect on what he/she is saying. Get over yourself!
Ironically, "game" is probably the worst way for these fellows to overcome their issues. I wish I could share this with Incels.
Tuesday, May 21, 2013
Roosh: PUA Most Likely to Join the Taliban
Roosh hasn't been having so much fun in Romania lately. Fortunately, out of hardship and suffering, great insights are born. Roosh has been pondering The True Nature Of Women, and he is now ready to share some of his Deep Thoughts.
"Water takes the shape of the container it fills." This is the metaphor Roosh has chosen to illustrate how women adapt to the cultures they live in. He is so captivated by this "water for women" metaphor that he repeats it over and over. And over. (Be warned: Roosh's habit of repeating inane metaphors is likely to trigger a migraine in sensitive readers.)
Roosh, as he frequently reminds his readers, is "a man of science" (that is, he has a B.S. from the University of Maryland with a biology major), so he certainly must know as much about the properties of H20 as he does about women.
"I believed the properties of water were in part tied to its location, that water from the East could mimic by only a small degree water from the West, but never be just like it. I was less experienced when I had this belief, for now I know better. Water that has been boiled into steam still has the molecular properties of water, and once the atoms cool down, it will readily take up its more familiar form."
I'm not sure, Roosh. Maybe because in a small city club, you stuck out more as an outsider and an interloper? Maybe because you wandered into a dyke bar by mistake? Maybe because you believe believe "yelling" is something "black American girls" do? There are so many possible reasons for a woman to yell at you, I can hardly begin to speculate.
Roosh finally concludes that the girls in Cluj enjoy such "a surplus of men from all over Europe" that they have been allowed to get away with being rude to strange men. Because in Roosh's mind, all women should defer to their social betters (= men, especially Roosh). Can't they recognize a returned king when they see one?
Then Roosh muses, "Would a girl display a single negative trait if it prevented her from finding a good man or living a comfortable life?" (The short answer to that is: Yes! Yes, she would!)
"Water takes the shape of the container it fills."
So you have (already) told us.
"I appeared on four separate Romanian TV channels, soaking in local fame, trying to get easy lays. I was recognized more times in the ensuing two months than I ever have in Washington DC. When a girl stared at me, I wasn’t sure why she was looking, but I hoped it was because she knew of me, and it would help get into her pants as in the fashion of American celebrity culture. Very early on I get a big surprise—girls who knew of me and my writing played some of the hardest, most lethal game I’ve seen in my life. One girl stood me up. Another was testing me to the point of frustration, as kind as I was to her. Another tried to put words in my mouth, serving up challenges when I wasn’t doing the same. And then I would meet a girl who did not know me, often in the same venue, and she would be the nicest girl in the world, not unlike my first experience in Poland. I have no doubt that the girls who acted bitchy to me would be sweet to the next guy that came along afterwards, suggesting there was a sort of switch that women could flick depending on the circumstance they found themselves in and the man they were meeting."
I hate to say I told you so, but didn't I warn you that Romanian "celebrity" was going to be a double edged sword? There you are on television, announcing to your hosts your intent to "game" the local women, and you're surprised that the women who recognize you decide to turn the table? Why does it surprise you that women dislike being conned, manipulated, or "played" as much as men do?
For ten years, Roosh has done everything he can do to Be A Somebody. In the process, he has tossed away his education, his family, his cultural heritage, and his professional prospects. He has squandered peak years, when he could have been building a meaningful career and emotionally intimate relationships, in order to bask in the admiration of adolescent boys (of various ages). It has got to burn.
As for that peculiar "switch" women have, that mystifying ability to go from "nice" to one fellow to "bitchy" to the next? Hmm... Is it possible they just don't like you, and the more they know about you (via all those TV appearances), the less they like you?
"Water takes the shape of the container it fills."
Yeah, yeah, enough with the water / container.
Roosh is bitter now, now that he realizes "Every woman on this planet, regardless of her education or background, [harbors an inner] bitch, a cunt, a slut, a golddigger, a flake, a cheater, a backstabber, a narcissist, and an attention whore that is dying to get out and that, if certain conditions arise and she is placed in a certain container at a certain temperature, will thrust her worst upon you, and this, I’m afraid, is the true nature of women." Furthermore, even the most angelic woman is hiding inner excrement; she is a dormant volcano waiting to unleash harm.
The solution Roosh offers to his fellow misogynists: Society needs to start putting constraints, limitations, and shackles on women's unbridled freedom of behaviors and choices by force, through application of law or shaming.
Wait a minute! Where have I heard all this before?
I give you Daryush "Roosh" Valizadeh: The PUA most likely to join the Taliban.
"Water takes the shape of the container it fills."
"Water takes the shape of the container it fills."
"Water takes the shape of the container it fills."
"Water takes the shape of the container it fills."
(No matter how often you repeat that, it still sounds lame.)
"Water takes the shape of the container it fills." This is the metaphor Roosh has chosen to illustrate how women adapt to the cultures they live in. He is so captivated by this "water for women" metaphor that he repeats it over and over. And over. (Be warned: Roosh's habit of repeating inane metaphors is likely to trigger a migraine in sensitive readers.)
Roosh, as he frequently reminds his readers, is "a man of science" (that is, he has a B.S. from the University of Maryland with a biology major), so he certainly must know as much about the properties of H20 as he does about women.
"I believed the properties of water were in part tied to its location, that water from the East could mimic by only a small degree water from the West, but never be just like it. I was less experienced when I had this belief, for now I know better. Water that has been boiled into steam still has the molecular properties of water, and once the atoms cool down, it will readily take up its more familiar form."
Doesn't that sound like something Sheldon might say on "The Big Bang Theory?" I mean, if Sheldon were a really angry and delusional misogynist?
Anyway, Roosh moves on to prove his theory in singular Rooshian fashion by explaining how, after years of lauding Poland, he was dismayed to find the girls of Warsaw to be as wickedly self-involved as the girls of Toronto (and they are the worst, as you may recall). Fortunately, a short train ride away from the capital took him back to the land of the sweetest, most feminine, and reliable women an armchair sex tourist could dream of. Away from the corrupting influence of the big city, Polish women retain their more pleasing genetic qualities.
Cuz the "container" (i.e., the city) "shapes" "the water."
Anyway, Roosh moves on to prove his theory in singular Rooshian fashion by explaining how, after years of lauding Poland, he was dismayed to find the girls of Warsaw to be as wickedly self-involved as the girls of Toronto (and they are the worst, as you may recall). Fortunately, a short train ride away from the capital took him back to the land of the sweetest, most feminine, and reliable women an armchair sex tourist could dream of. Away from the corrupting influence of the big city, Polish women retain their more pleasing genetic qualities.
Cuz the "container" (i.e., the city) "shapes" "the water."
Got it? Good.
This theory has been challenged in Romania, however.
Even in Cluj, which Roosh describes as a second-tier city, "No girl in Cluj asked me to buy her a drink, but two girls yelled at me. One because I didn’t move from her “spot” in the bar and another for a trivial reason that I forgot as soon as her neck cocked back and forth while yelling at me like she was a black American girl. What caused them to get so angry at me when no girl in Bucharest or Iasi have [sic] even given me a sneer?"
Even in Cluj, which Roosh describes as a second-tier city, "No girl in Cluj asked me to buy her a drink, but two girls yelled at me. One because I didn’t move from her “spot” in the bar and another for a trivial reason that I forgot as soon as her neck cocked back and forth while yelling at me like she was a black American girl. What caused them to get so angry at me when no girl in Bucharest or Iasi have [sic] even given me a sneer?"
I'm not sure, Roosh. Maybe because in a small city club, you stuck out more as an outsider and an interloper? Maybe because you wandered into a dyke bar by mistake? Maybe because you believe believe "yelling" is something "black American girls" do? There are so many possible reasons for a woman to yell at you, I can hardly begin to speculate.
Roosh finally concludes that the girls in Cluj enjoy such "a surplus of men from all over Europe" that they have been allowed to get away with being rude to strange men. Because in Roosh's mind, all women should defer to their social betters (= men, especially Roosh). Can't they recognize a returned king when they see one?
Then Roosh muses, "Would a girl display a single negative trait if it prevented her from finding a good man or living a comfortable life?" (The short answer to that is: Yes! Yes, she would!)
"Water takes the shape of the container it fills."
So you have (already) told us.
"I appeared on four separate Romanian TV channels, soaking in local fame, trying to get easy lays. I was recognized more times in the ensuing two months than I ever have in Washington DC. When a girl stared at me, I wasn’t sure why she was looking, but I hoped it was because she knew of me, and it would help get into her pants as in the fashion of American celebrity culture. Very early on I get a big surprise—girls who knew of me and my writing played some of the hardest, most lethal game I’ve seen in my life. One girl stood me up. Another was testing me to the point of frustration, as kind as I was to her. Another tried to put words in my mouth, serving up challenges when I wasn’t doing the same. And then I would meet a girl who did not know me, often in the same venue, and she would be the nicest girl in the world, not unlike my first experience in Poland. I have no doubt that the girls who acted bitchy to me would be sweet to the next guy that came along afterwards, suggesting there was a sort of switch that women could flick depending on the circumstance they found themselves in and the man they were meeting."
I hate to say I told you so, but didn't I warn you that Romanian "celebrity" was going to be a double edged sword? There you are on television, announcing to your hosts your intent to "game" the local women, and you're surprised that the women who recognize you decide to turn the table? Why does it surprise you that women dislike being conned, manipulated, or "played" as much as men do?
For ten years, Roosh has done everything he can do to Be A Somebody. In the process, he has tossed away his education, his family, his cultural heritage, and his professional prospects. He has squandered peak years, when he could have been building a meaningful career and emotionally intimate relationships, in order to bask in the admiration of adolescent boys (of various ages). It has got to burn.
As for that peculiar "switch" women have, that mystifying ability to go from "nice" to one fellow to "bitchy" to the next? Hmm... Is it possible they just don't like you, and the more they know about you (via all those TV appearances), the less they like you?
"Water takes the shape of the container it fills."
Yeah, yeah, enough with the water / container.
Roosh is bitter now, now that he realizes "Every woman on this planet, regardless of her education or background, [harbors an inner] bitch, a cunt, a slut, a golddigger, a flake, a cheater, a backstabber, a narcissist, and an attention whore that is dying to get out and that, if certain conditions arise and she is placed in a certain container at a certain temperature, will thrust her worst upon you, and this, I’m afraid, is the true nature of women." Furthermore, even the most angelic woman is hiding inner excrement; she is a dormant volcano waiting to unleash harm.
The solution Roosh offers to his fellow misogynists: Society needs to start putting constraints, limitations, and shackles on women's unbridled freedom of behaviors and choices by force, through application of law or shaming.
Wait a minute! Where have I heard all this before?
I give you Daryush "Roosh" Valizadeh: The PUA most likely to join the Taliban.
"Water takes the shape of the container it fills."
"Water takes the shape of the container it fills."
"Water takes the shape of the container it fills."
"Water takes the shape of the container it fills."
(No matter how often you repeat that, it still sounds lame.)
Sunday, April 7, 2013
On PUA
Are you old enough to remember when the back pages of comic books and popular magazines had ads for stuff like "X ray glasses," that promised to give readers the power to see through girls' clothes, and Charles Atlas programs that guaranteed to turn any 90 lb. weakling into a muscle-bound beach bully? There was always at least one ad for a guide to picking up girls. I'll admit I was intrigued by glasses that provided x-ray vision, and I remember buying at least one clutch of "sea monkeys," but I knew the pick up guides had to be a load of rubbish and even if I had been a boy, I was pretty much sure I wouldn't have fallen for those scams.
Nowadays, we have infomercials and pick up artists like Roosh. And while I'll confess I still slow down at the Walgreen counters where "As Seen On TV" products are displayed, I still scoff at the sad sacks who think the secrets of successful seduction can be found in slim missives dispatched from turd world countries.
Although I am contemptuous of PUA, I don't hate the suckers who support this industry: I feel kind of sorry for them.
I don't really hate PUA on principle, or rather I don't hate it more than I hate Cosmopolitan magazine. PUA is like Cosmo for boys. Adolescents are desperately looking for answers to the burning teenage question, "How do I make [people of the opposite sex] desire me?", and these sources give lots of advice, repetitive and reductive and simple-minded to be sure, perhaps reassuring by its very repetitive, reductive simple-minded nature. It's understandable to devour junk when a person is fifteen, but by the time he/she has graduated from college and entered the "real" adult world, it's time to grow up.
Anyway, I'm all for everybody pursuing as much sexual validation as they need or want. What I hate is reducing both men and women to the sums of their worst parts.
My problem isn't with PUA or MRM in theory, it's withmisogyny misanthropy. My problem with the PUA of Roosh, Rossy, et al. is that it isn't "sweet love making" that is being promoted, but rather opportunities to degrade, exploit, or humiliate a.target. My problem is with referring to women as "notches" and "flags" or to men as "betas" and "manginas."
My problem is that I just don't recognize the people who inhabit the PUA/MRM world, where every man is a caged, snarling predator in a gnawing state of priapism, and every woman is either a conniving gold-digger or a maniacal, castrating bitch.
For one thing, nurturing a hateful, resentful, "us against them" mind set is counter-productive to the immediate, pressing concern of getting laid. We won't even think about how it ruins any chance of a long term, emotionally intimate and trusting relationship. C'mon guys, think about it: Roosh gets his dick wet maybe once a month by making pick up his full time job but he's in his mid-thirties now, and he doesn't seem to have ever had a real friend, much less a regular girlfriend. And this is your relationship guru?
People like Roosh or Roissy or (God forbid) Paul Elam are not making the world a better place, that's for sure. And the irony is they're so self-evidently miserable themselves.
What's in that red pill, anyway? Why would anyone want to take it?
Nowadays, we have infomercials and pick up artists like Roosh. And while I'll confess I still slow down at the Walgreen counters where "As Seen On TV" products are displayed, I still scoff at the sad sacks who think the secrets of successful seduction can be found in slim missives dispatched from turd world countries.
Although I am contemptuous of PUA, I don't hate the suckers who support this industry: I feel kind of sorry for them.
I don't really hate PUA on principle, or rather I don't hate it more than I hate Cosmopolitan magazine. PUA is like Cosmo for boys. Adolescents are desperately looking for answers to the burning teenage question, "How do I make [people of the opposite sex] desire me?", and these sources give lots of advice, repetitive and reductive and simple-minded to be sure, perhaps reassuring by its very repetitive, reductive simple-minded nature. It's understandable to devour junk when a person is fifteen, but by the time he/she has graduated from college and entered the "real" adult world, it's time to grow up.
Anyway, I'm all for everybody pursuing as much sexual validation as they need or want. What I hate is reducing both men and women to the sums of their worst parts.
My problem isn't with PUA or MRM in theory, it's with
My problem is that I just don't recognize the people who inhabit the PUA/MRM world, where every man is a caged, snarling predator in a gnawing state of priapism, and every woman is either a conniving gold-digger or a maniacal, castrating bitch.
For one thing, nurturing a hateful, resentful, "us against them" mind set is counter-productive to the immediate, pressing concern of getting laid. We won't even think about how it ruins any chance of a long term, emotionally intimate and trusting relationship. C'mon guys, think about it: Roosh gets his dick wet maybe once a month by making pick up his full time job but he's in his mid-thirties now, and he doesn't seem to have ever had a real friend, much less a regular girlfriend. And this is your relationship guru?
People like Roosh or Roissy or (God forbid) Paul Elam are not making the world a better place, that's for sure. And the irony is they're so self-evidently miserable themselves.
What's in that red pill, anyway? Why would anyone want to take it?
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