Some of the manosphereans and neo-reactionaries are upset because they are finding themselves literally shut out of feminist and liberal conversations. Cuz censorship! Freeze peach!
What kind of activism will they be able to do if they are no longer allowed to intrude on or "re-tweet" their "enemies"? How will they fight the Blue Pill now? There are even "feminist blockbots" out there that will automatically block
"I don't get it," one little shitbot tweets plaintively, if a bit disingenuously. "I don't block anyone." Indeed not, since provoking
At least I don't have to worry about it: I've never twittered, and never will. I don't even have a smartphone (to the endless derisive amusement of my students). As far as I am concerned, people already have far too many ways to communicate with me, and I already have far too many ways to get myself in trouble. La Strega + twitter account + 2 martinis = hella trouble.
You know how there's a few token women in that sphere that are just worshipped by the guys? I wonder if this article has any relevance to that. The "geek culture" isn't necessarily applicable to all of the cases, but the idea of someone who isn't socially popular (which, let's face it, is probably most of these guys) but still craves love and acceptance, it's very relevant. These women construct an image of that appealing woman who is within the comfort zone, because they are still within the small 'subculture' that these guys actually have a voice in: http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2011/09/dont-date-geek-girls/
ReplyDeleteYou nailed it.
DeleteHmm, I can think of at least two red pill dudes who blocked me from their twitters sharpish after I left a couple of sarky tweets (nothing abusive). Being free to block people is vital to social media, otherwise everyone would be open to non stop harassment; we can judge some people for being too heavy handed about it, but at the end of the day it's up to them.
ReplyDeleteWhen you say boycotting, does that mean just refusing to marry one, or having no dealings with them at all? If it's the former, have you had to turn many American down since you began the boycott?
ReplyDeleteOh God, not this idiot again. This guy's been spamming blogs with the above stupid proclamation for years (which makes his complaint that American women are self-centred rather ironic). I can imagine him being a real barrel of laughs at parties - you'd have a bunch of guests engrossed in conversation about something suitably fascinating, only to find this tool marching into their midst, placing his hands on his hips in the manner of a self-important child, and then announcing in a loud voice, "I have decided to tell you all why I have decided to BOYCOTT AMERICAN WOMEN" (and then immediately launching into the above spiel in some annoying droning voice, blithely oblivious to everyone else giving him funny looks and quietly withdrawing themselves from his company). Believe me mate, I'm sure most American women find the decision of an insufferable bore like you to "boycott" them no great loss!
ReplyDeleteBTW "Anonymous" above usually goes by the moniker "John Rambo", who in turn is apparently the alter ego of a guy called Peter Andrew-Nolan. Google his name sometime - you'll find out what a total nutjob he is. Somewhat embarrassingly, he hails from my corner of the world. Yay!
Yes, I've run across Peter Andrew Nolan before. Thanks for the background info!
ReplyDeleteAn interesting piece in The New Yorker about prof. Mary Beard, from the other side of the pond, and her dealings with online misogynists (the woman may be a saint, from what I see:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/09/01/troll-slayer
Here's a bit of background on the dude who operated the site which attacked her last year in such a vile way (of course he's innocent, he didn't know it was going on -- on his site, moderated by him...; it's all in good humor, and besides it's all her fault that he and his troll brigade abused her and other women -- same ol', same ol' from every web bully exposed for his bullying ways):
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jan/25/mary-beard-row-website-apologises
http://www.newstatesman.com/media/2013/01/what-its-be-victim-dont-start-me-offs-internet-hate-mob
http://www.newstatesman.com/laurie-penny/2013/01/laurie-penny-its-time-end-culture-online-misogyny
Thanks for the links. I enjoyed them
DeleteGlad.
DeleteIf he's going to go to the trouble of spamming people the least he can do is bother to update the blog. His last post is from June 2012.
ReplyDeleteThere's something almost amusing about someone yelling 'Hey everybody!! Come and watch me not doing something!!!'
I am sure we will all miss you. Nah, just kidding. We won't.
ReplyDeleteAnd, oh, let's not forget the extra special layer of the faux concern here, one that reaches deeper into an MRA / right-winger's psyche and goes beyond simple propagandist value: the abused girls were white.
ReplyDeleteYes, the white knighting, as it were, on behalf of *white* girls abused by non-white Muslims *overseas* is indeed entirely predictable from this crowd.
Meanwhile, at home:
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/sex-trafficking-america-0
I think 'political correctness' is being used as a handy scapegoating tool here. I think the real reason so many people failed to speak out about the girls being abused in Rotherham was because most of those girls were from disadvantaged backgrounds and considered to be 'trash' etc and generally the kind of young people that society as a whole ignores or looks down on.
ReplyDeleteI think the real tragedy here is how little society at large really cares about the welfare of teenagers.
I'm not sure you can compare the two in those terms, what point are you making exactly?
ReplyDeleteIs the Indian woman you're referring to the young woman who was kidnapped onto a bus, gang raped and partially disemboweled and left to die in the street? Because that made the news on account of the severity and shamelessness of the violence, the fact her family wanted to go public about it, the fact the young woman represented the rising young professional class in India, the fact that her death sparked protests across the country spurring the Indian justice system to take this case seriously and mete out hefty punishment to her attackers, despite the defense claiming that the rape and murder was her fault. That's why this case made international news, many other women and girls are raped in India and it isn't reported.
The Rotherham case might not be being reported internationally, but it is being reported a great deal here in Britain, there was loads on BBCnews. Sexual exploitation of children always makes the news in Britain, hence the ongoing scandals coming out of Operation Yew Tree.
Like I said, what point are you making?
But wait, there is more!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2737814/Why-US-Canadian-Arctic-one-worlds-dangerous-places-woman.html
Where is your and your MRA pals' outrage, Shawn?
He's making -- or desperately trying, without much success (figures) -- the same ol' (and only) point that MRA ever make: Feminists are ebul, see?!
ReplyDeleteAs an American woman, I can assure you that I totally support your boycott. Completely and entirely. Please do not marry an American woman.
ReplyDeleteOr any other woman, for that matter. Please.
i don't think the feminists would ignore it if 1400 girls got raped by white american GOP Tea Party frat bros
ReplyDeleteYou are shifting goalposts and obfuscating, Shawn. Answer the question:
ReplyDeleteWhere is the American MRA outrage over sex trafficking, slavery, and rapes committed by white men in the USA?
Read the linked articles, please. If you expect to be taken seriously here, you can at least return the favor and read what was suggested for you.
@Shawn. Are 'The Feminists' ignoring the Rotherham case? As in, all the feminists? Feminists aren't a singular hive mind, quite a lot is being said about it, just perhaps not on the blogs and discussion forums that you frequent. To be fair this is a British case, and I wouldn't expect people living elsewhere in the world to be as aware of it as anyone living in Britain is, where it's making the front pages and national news.
ReplyDeleteAnd anyway, you haven't answered my question either.
Yes, I support you, 110%. For the love of God, do not marry an American woman. Or ANY woman. They have done NOTHING to deserve that horsepucky!
ReplyDelete(Maybe stick to sex dolls instead.)