in my experience self identifying as a feminist correlates very strongly with liking to get choked during sex
I don't know if that is a lie, of course. Maybe in Duck Enlightenment's experience, this has been true. But more likely it is true only in Duck Enlightenment's fantasies.
I also don't know many women who self-identify as feminists although most of them accept gender equality as part of the social fabric of our modern western lives. How would this come up in conversation with a guy like Duck Enlightenment, I wonder. I've talked quite frankly with a lot of women about sex, and no woman has ever admitted to me a predilection for being choked during sex. That doesn't mean there aren't women who do like that sort of thing, of course. It just suggests to me if is not as common as, say, a predilection for cunnilingus or quietly powerful vibrators.
I also don't know many women who self-identify as feminists although most of them accept gender equality as part of the social fabric of our modern western lives. How would this come up in conversation with a guy like Duck Enlightenment, I wonder. I've talked quite frankly with a lot of women about sex, and no woman has ever admitted to me a predilection for being choked during sex. That doesn't mean there aren't women who do like that sort of thing, of course. It just suggests to me if is not as common as, say, a predilection for cunnilingus or quietly powerful vibrators.
If someone tried to choke me, I would be frankly terrified. (Once a man who had perhaps seen one porn too many unexpectedly slapped my butt. I burst into tears, more from shock than pain, which put an abrupt end to the ongoing proceedings.)
But it's not about verifiable or experienced truth, is it? It's about maintaining a belief system that justifies the contempt of women. Read these guys' twitter feeds, or scan the ROK and Roosh forums: pages and pages of guys exchanging their fantasies in the guise of experiences. Lies upon lies, repeated until they achieve the well-worn patina of versimilitude.
I just asked a male friend about this and he said he'd been with several girls (over the last 15 years) who wanted to be lightly choked, though he said it wasn't common. Go figure. I can't imagine wanting this, or wanting to be hit, pretend raped or have my hair yanked.
ReplyDeleteThere must be self selecting bias in the Manosphere reporting. They are, by their own account, women haters who have extreme contempt for women. Who are the women/girls most likely to be sleeping with such men? Thriller seekers and/or women with self esteem issues, I'd suggest.
You're totally right about self identifying as feminists. Not that many people do, apart from professional feminists (e.g. academics, writers and bloggers). I had lunch in London the other day with a dyke who runs a major IT operation and she mentioned she wasn't sure if she was a feminist or not. Makes me wonder who all the scary feminists out there actually are.