tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post8862511799119128802..comments2023-04-02T02:01:35.445-07:00Comments on The Blog of Cinzia La Strega : Roosh As A Subject of ArtCinziahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16811789307226566072noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-2755157525802316622015-03-20T09:32:26.175-07:002015-03-20T09:32:26.175-07:00I don't condone such behaviour, I just don'...I don't condone such behaviour, I just don't consider consensual encounters as rape. Provide some actual examples of rape and I'll share your outrage. There's plenty out there.snork maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12072762474400053537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-35624173509163140142015-03-18T02:03:36.230-07:002015-03-18T02:03:36.230-07:00It's worrying to me that you condone this sort...It's worrying to me that you condone this sort of male behaviorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-5244068670304557122015-03-18T01:25:10.619-07:002015-03-18T01:25:10.619-07:00I'm shocked that you can bat this off so easy....I'm shocked that you can bat this off so easy. It seems to me only one of us is really concerned with what these people are doing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-6384804840047763722015-03-13T03:35:24.883-07:002015-03-13T03:35:24.883-07:00Why? In this instance it sounds like she had a con...Why? In this instance it sounds like she had a consensual rebound encounter after breaking up with her boyfriend. Do you believe that women are somehow sullied by sex? That sounds like Roosh logic. At least with this girl he had the decency to use a condom.<br /><br />If you're going to concern troll us, there are better passages where Roosh reveals his rapey credentials.<br /><br />snork maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12072762474400053537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-3968624657723387002015-03-12T12:15:54.592-07:002015-03-12T12:15:54.592-07:00I've just read this and am speechless. This ma...I've just read this and am speechless. This man is a rapist. This poor innocent girl.<br /><br />http://www.rooshv.com/she-said-she-wanted-a-serious-relationship-2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-9860911026230576032015-03-08T14:51:18.702-07:002015-03-08T14:51:18.702-07:00It depends how drunk doesn't it? The manospher...It depends how drunk doesn't it? The manosphere is desperate to assert that there are loads of women getting a little tipsy, having one nights and then crying rape the next day. In reality most women who fall into that category just feel embarrassed the next morning and seek to forget all about it.snork maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12072762474400053537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-90731807751439695032015-03-08T00:54:05.335-08:002015-03-08T00:54:05.335-08:00Thank you for your comments and yes English is my ...Thank you for your comments and yes English is my second language. It's just that if a man and woman are inebriated then surely a woman cannot give consent and the man must be punished for his actions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-27592476246549710452015-03-01T09:50:18.263-08:002015-03-01T09:50:18.263-08:00Slow days, eh? Stuck in the house because of snow?...Slow days, eh? Stuck in the house because of snow?<br /><br />Yes, as ceebarks notes, your concern trolling is lame. Btw, is English your second language (Yohami ;))? Surely you meant 'definition,' and not 'decision.'<br /><br />No, as far as I know, 'many (or any) feminists' do not want the definition of rape 'extended.'<br />Rape is and always will be defined as sex without consent. If a woman of legal age, in full mental capacity (not drunk, etc.), willingly (without coercion, threats, etc.) consents to sex with a man, then it is not rape, obviously. <br /><br />Nice try, though.<br /><br />Btw, men who manipulate women with game do not do anything illegal, as long as they do not use threats, blackmail, etc. Their behaviors are immoral, however, and typically karma takes care of that (you know, what goes around, comes around).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-76683363905353377412015-03-01T01:28:24.806-08:002015-03-01T01:28:24.806-08:00Really? Please elaborate and explain how you belie...Really? Please elaborate and explain how you believe these particular young women are victims of 'white patriarchy'?snork maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12072762474400053537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-90609814663544058782015-03-01T01:26:47.595-08:002015-03-01T01:26:47.595-08:00I'm seconding what Ceebarks said, I've bee...I'm seconding what Ceebarks said, I've been giving you serious responses as sarcasm can be taken out of context. DO YOU think tricking someone into sleeping with you is rape?snork maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12072762474400053537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-44080838135300107742015-02-27T23:50:02.084-08:002015-02-27T23:50:02.084-08:00Have you guys been following the story of the the ...Have you guys been following the story of the the three English Muslim girls who have fled to Syria to join isis. Obviously these girls are victims of the white patriarchy. How can we stop this happening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-75481293695170138862015-02-25T18:43:22.441-08:002015-02-25T18:43:22.441-08:00You are really the most unconvincing concern-troll...You are really the most unconvincing concern-troll ever. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-11581546503113902952015-02-25T15:41:39.451-08:002015-02-25T15:41:39.451-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.snork maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12072762474400053537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-69415666406568728702015-02-25T15:38:47.922-08:002015-02-25T15:38:47.922-08:00Backwards rationalization is always a risk that co...Backwards rationalization is always a risk that comes with hindsight, in any circumstances, as anon points out above, I'm sure many PUA types attribute their success to game when that might have had nothing to do with it. The denizens of SlutHate have failed at game, and they backwards rationalize that women are to blame because that suits what they want to believe.<br /><br />Again, you're kind of generalizing about women when you describe the 'nice girl fell for a cad, gets bitter about it' trope, and what exactly do you mean by 'there (sic) really not that different from the next girl'? Regarding the differences between game and 'what women are taught', do you mean dating books? In which case they main difference I can see is that game advocates demeaning women to objects with the goal of either having no strings sex, regardless of what the woman wants, or having a relationship based on constant manipulation and domination. On the other hand with the women's dating books I've dipped into before chucking across the room in disgust, the objective is always to have a fulfilling relationship; while sweeping generalizations are made about men (and women), the tone is never disrespectful towards men, there is the presumption that the reader actually likes the guy she wants to go out with.<br /><br />'Obviously all these women are victims' Really? I think some will feel victimized, especially if they've been egregiously deceived and then treated very badly, but others will just chalk it up to experience. Trouble is game isn't the only form of manipulation out there, it's just a nasty part of being human, and the only way to avoid it to not to trust anybody, which doesn't sound like much fun. I guess a good start would be to teach our children not to be assholes to each other.snork maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12072762474400053537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-68979367616790301032015-02-25T11:24:12.401-08:002015-02-25T11:24:12.401-08:00I know many feminists want the decision of rape ex...I know many feminists want the decision of rape extended. Do you think that men who manipulate women into bed with game fall into this category. Surely by punishing these men we can create a fair society.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-8387105017808478212015-02-25T08:22:02.899-08:002015-02-25T08:22:02.899-08:00Who are 'these women'?
And what do you t...Who are 'these women'? <br /><br />And what do you think 'women are taught'?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-43674470800677126522015-02-24T11:35:41.954-08:002015-02-24T11:35:41.954-08:00Isn't there a risk that these women have backw...Isn't there a risk that these women have backwards rationalized that game doesn't work. Let's be fair they all fell for some cad and probably don't want to admit there really not that different from the next girl. Also what do you think are the fundamental differences between game and what women are taught. Obviously all these women are victims but is there anyway we can avoid this game?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-53235958003974091922015-02-24T08:46:53.080-08:002015-02-24T08:46:53.080-08:00Yes to all you've said.
When a PUA / redpilli...Yes to all you've said.<br /><br />When a PUA / redpillier thinks that he successfully used "game," it is obvious (to anyone not redpillian, that is) it means any or all of the following scenarios:<br />- the woman thought him cute and/or interesting,<br />- she liked him right away, despite his pathetic "game" moves, at which she laughed inwardly,<br />- she was horny / lonely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-35836771227007960662015-02-23T03:02:51.771-08:002015-02-23T03:02:51.771-08:00I agree, which is why she is best off not engaging...I agree, which is why she is best off not engaging with him but sticking with her original concept of tracking down the women.<br /><br />I've been checking out how far she's got, and while no one's come forward admitting any connection to Roosh, there are over twenty accounts from women who have encountered men using PUA techniques. The common thread seems to be that they were attracted to these men anyway, and that if anything, the 'game' these guys ran was an impediment to forming intimacy.<br /><br />I think if 'game' has any value it's that it gives some men the confidence to actually approach women in the first place. But everything else about it is toxic because it encourages you to dehumanize those around you and see them as interchangaeble objects to be manipulated.snork maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12072762474400053537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-65195916050623100882015-02-22T10:33:08.847-08:002015-02-22T10:33:08.847-08:00Sadly (IMO), Washko is naive enough not to notice ...Sadly (IMO), Washko is naive enough not to notice that she's dealing with a narcissistic sociopath and playing straight into his needs for adulation and control over his narcissistic supply. This is often the case with empathetic and even highly intelligent women who set out to "understand" and sometimes "cure" evil in the world, which often takes on the form of "understanding" (and trying to "cure") sociopathy of individual men. <br /><br />While they think they are engaged in a noble and useful mission, they end up being exploited by the very sociopaths whom they seek to "understand," if only because they fail to grasp that, contrary to what their projected but misguided empathetic impulses tell them, there is no depth there and nothing special or complex to "understand." <br /><br />Narcissistic sociopaths like Roosh are as transparent as they present themselves: what you see -- a straightforward pursuit of the most primitive goals (sex, power, and adulation) -- is what you get. There is nothing of value to explore there, I'm afraid (other than perhaps the possible origins of their dysfunction -- but one does not get there by interacting with them, especially not on their terms and territory). <br /><br />Whether she wants to and realizes it or not (and there is an intriguing question in that), she's just become another "notch" on Roosh's imaginary bedpost.<br /><br />She does make an insightful observation, however, in this:<br /><br />" (...) Roosh’s framing of these women makes it clear that he believes he is manipulating them to some degree with his game, however I imagine their experiences are much more complex and much more interesting than Roosh’s one-sided story of conquering victims with logic and reason would ever allow it to be."<br /><br />This is almost always the case. The proponents of Game erroneously attribute their successes to it, which is only possible because they completely discount women's -- and human -- experience (nor are capable of even acknowledging and grasping it).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-22700055348600865142015-02-21T16:26:54.370-08:002015-02-21T16:26:54.370-08:00Wtf is #endwhitepeople? I googled it and only foun...Wtf is #endwhitepeople? I googled it and only found a couple of references, and most of the tweets to that hashtag were screaming anti-Semitic slurs at someone called Barbara L Spectre. And, what are we all thinking pray tell?snork maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12072762474400053537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-24270313319086361022015-02-21T16:18:09.544-08:002015-02-21T16:18:09.544-08:00I would say no, putting babies on the DNA database...I would say no, putting babies on the DNA database is not a price worth paying. For one thing most rape victims know who their attacker is. We need better functioning justice systems and more enlightened attitudes towards sexuality. <br /><br />Roosh is the ultimate hypocrite, he spends his life tricking women into sleeping with him then judges women who are sexually active. And his latest nonsense is just trolling on a grand scale.snork maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12072762474400053537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-83159126113995459942015-02-20T12:33:40.381-08:002015-02-20T12:33:40.381-08:00Just seen this hash tag #endwhitepeople thankfully...Just seen this hash tag #endwhitepeople thankfully someone has come out and said what we are all thinking. As a woc I love your blog and the fact that your highlighting inequalityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-68803988874761248202015-02-20T11:28:45.450-08:002015-02-20T11:28:45.450-08:00Having read rooshs call to make rape legal I think...Having read rooshs call to make rape legal I think all men at birth should be DNA profiled and records kept of there whereabouts. Then when one in four of our innocent daughters are raped we can identify the culprit. Surely this is a small price to pay ending rape culture. Civil liberties for women and men who can be trusted and that has to be proved over a number of years. Would love to hear your thoughts. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3711202640864482160.post-40185452840230763812015-02-13T20:20:47.610-08:002015-02-13T20:20:47.610-08:00Yeah I wanna hear her side.
I saw that post. I ac...Yeah I wanna hear her side.<br /><br />I saw that post. I actually told him that writing a reactionary blog wouldn't do anything to make his life or his kids' better or help men. He them blew up on me as an evil feminazi who wanted to kill his child by forcing her into the marines???!!!! Then proceeded to scream profanities at me. I was like... Wut.<br /><br />So he seems calmer these days. But still reactionary. And honestly I don't particularly respect him now just because he no longer writes like he's a bomb waiting to explode. When he actually takes responsibility for his previous screeds I'll look.<br /><br />Ceebarks I saw you chatting it up with him on mammoth. I'm sorry but I don't really trust him to change. He still strikes me as a fundamentally immature, self centered, self pitying guy. Basically a big manchild.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com